6 comments on “Edu-ma-kay-shun

  1. no kidding
    Its true about the meds. They say kids are not paying attention in class and are hyperactive. i know i would be too… lets think about a normal kid’s school day
    breakfast – sugar with milk and cereal.
    ride to school.
    sit and pay attention for 4 hours.
    lunch – pizza or hamburger
    play outside for 25 min
    sit and pay attention for 4 more hours.
    ride the bus home
    eat a bowl of sugar, cereal, and milk.
    We wonder why we say they are monsters, where is the veggies and other brain food? where is the chance to run the sugar out? why is it boring and try to focus for 4 hours. we dont even ask adults to do that… we have breaks.
    this is why i am for 3 recesses and for good lunches without the options of pizza, taco’s, and hamburgers.
    just my 2cents. lets not over medicate, lets educate and play. šŸ˜›

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    • Re: no kidding
      I remeber going to school from 8-3. Mom would make breakfast: oat meal (and not the kind that came in a little package) waffles (they were not cooked in a toaster), pancakes, french toast, etc…
      We had two 10 minute recesses, one half-hour one and gym twice a week.
      We were mortified when at second grade they took our number line away!
      The teachers could punish us by taking recess away, and they WOULD call our parents and we had to live the rest of they day knowing we had to go home to mad parents.
      There were bullies, and being picked on, and being the last picked in gym … but we learned to live with that kind of disappiontment, cause we were the kids that did well in reading, or art, or writing.
      And those that did well in ALL of these things … it showed us that some where SPECIAL, but we went home and played with our friends and they didn’t matter, cause we where happy.
      We learned how to live in a diverse world with consequenses and the idea that we needed a base education to make it on our own.
      Let the computers break down … give me paper and pencil, sand and my finger … I can balance my check book, leave you a message, tell you I care.

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      • Re: no kidding
        I couldn’t agree with you more! It was the world we lived in that shaped who we turned out to be, and we dealt with any bumps in the road along the way. No medication, no shrinks….just real-world learning.

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  2. We are in trouble
    I have posted before on some aspects of this subject.
    I do not look forward to our future here soon. We are pumping out a vast majority of people that cannot read, count, or figure things out for themselves without something (computers, calculaters, registers, etc …) telling them what to do. They will be prone/forced to follow those that can. And that may very well be those that are home schooled, children raised that do not have the social skills that come from interaction with those diffent from themselves.
    It can be cruel sometimes … but there is no longer the idea of competion, dealing with failure or sucess, just the OH I WAS THERE. No social skills created from being exposed to MANY diffrent ideas … right or wrong … forcing their mind to work and actually being able to argue their beliefs.
    I cannot condone either way as the best for the children. Both are producing people that can’t function or do not know how on a public level.
    As I said before … it scares me. We are about to enter an Electronic Dark age.

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    • Re: We are in trouble
      I don’t know for sure about not being able to interact with social groups by being home schooled. My brother (step) was home schooled. He is a musician and very popular. He can figure and read but he also has social graces. part of his home schooling was the open minded and exploration of other ideas. As long as the home school parents keep this well rounded experience in mind when planning, it is not an issue.
      I went to a school of geeks. Some were public schooled, some private schooled, and some were home schooled. some had social skills and some did not. Some were rich and some were poor. Some girls and some boys. Some of all colors, religious beliefs, and sexual orientations. I cannot say the home schooled kids were less or more socialized than the public or private schooled kids.
      I do agree that it is easier to control a large group of people when every decision they make is based off of punching buttons, filling in a circle, or some other multiple choice. most people do not even know how to check if the answer that piece of machinery put out is reasonable or far-fetched. I enjoyed teaching people math/algebra and showing them the different ways to put things in the calculator and getting all kinds of different answers for the same problem. It did open a lot of eyes (at least I hope it did).
      As for some of the teachers… Not defending the public school system that sets us up for failure but I am defending the good people who put up with it for the betterment of our kids. Teachers are as paid the same or less than a manager at a fast food place. They have 7 hours of classes (or 6 with a “prep and grading” period of 55 min(or 45 depending on the school)). This can mean 6 preps for every day with 55 min to grade papers for 20 to 50 students in each class (thats what… about 120 to 350 papers a day, with different keys and levels of grading). To stay certified, they take classes during the summer break and or at night. They usually have families of their own that also take time and of course love and energy.
      So in summery: I feel the system is broke, a lot of teachers are trying to do the best they can with the limitations and rules they are given. I feel home schooling and public schooling makes no difference in social skills as long as parents keep in mind social skills.
      Kzintiwife

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      • My ex was Teacher (Math,Algebra,Calculas,Physics,Basic English)
        The limitations he had were unbelievable, and the gross lack of parent support was … well … gross.
        My othe ex was in the Navy at the time and home schooled and a computer geek, and unfortunatly, as I have seen in most cases, did not get much of a social life until AFTER his education.
        The result has been buy far too many young adults that can not make change, read, nor adequetly interact in society.
        As someone that has been in management in the restauarant business for over 10 years in five states … and helped correct/review school papers, and on more then one occasion had to tell the cashier what change to give me … what is becoming the norm … is not good.

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